Ongoing (meta)thread about :


"*This* is the illness we are letting rip through our community, that half of patients will end up with."

"[An patient] feels effectively the same every day as an AIDS patient feels two months before death; the only difference is that the symptoms can go on for never-ending decades."


"[…] a narrative in which the primary risks from are acute illness, death, and impacts on health care systems. Yet […] can cause symptoms — often debilitating symptoms — that persist for months or even years after infection. Studies have found anywhere from 7% to 61% of those infected with Covid later experience long Covid, including those who initially had 'mild' cases and were never hospitalized."


"Pandemics disable people — the history lesson that policymakers ignore"

"Influenza, polio and more have shown that infections can change lives even decades later. Why the complacency over possible long-term effects of -19?"

"From the beginning of this pandemic, people with disabilities understood that the disease would target them and would swell their ranks."



"The solution cannot be that everyone has to get . That is eugenics because many disabled high risk people will die and those who do not die will have serious complications and lifelong impacts to their health and wellbeing via COVID and the possibility of long COVID. Do not buy into this eugenic thinking that expects the most vulnerable to be sacrificed. is real and it can happen to anyone."


"In a decade it will be *known* that causes severe cognitive impairment & neurodegenerative disease; today millions of us are living it in reality, in our 20s + 30s + 40s, in what was supposed to be the beginning of our lives."

"Help is not coming fast enough. I don't want to be a note in a history textbook […]. I want action *now*. We know enough, *now*, to pour large scale resources into this & to stop it from happening to millions of others."


"The Reduced Brain Blood Flow Diseases? Long COVID, ME/CFS and POTS"

"Despite the fact that people with often meet the criteria for […] the survey suggests that doctors almost never diagnose long patients with either ME/CFS (3%) or postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome () (4%)." (nl)


"Clues to Long : Scientists strive to unravel what is driving disabling symptoms"

"I consider to be a massive emergency."


CDC: "post- incident conditions occur in 20%–30% of patients"

Nature: "vaccination before infection confers only partial protection in the post-acute phase of the disease"

Vaccination doesn’t decrease the risk of after breakthrough infections.


"the greatest mass disabling event in human history"

"We’ve known for well over a year how prevalent and severe is, yet the public remains largely uninformed around its risk. While the likelihood of someone developing the condition after infection has ranged from 5% or 50% (a recent meta-analysis pins it to 20-30%, and 10% if vaccinated), the most conservative estimate still amounts to one in 20 people. A 'medically rare event' is one in 1,000."


"We don't remember polio nowadays, only longpolio.

In 29.5%, it presents as diarrhea, GI distress. Only 0.5% of cases present with neurological symptoms. For the vast vast majority of people who got a disease which left hundreds of thousands disabled for the rest of their lives, polio was a few days of having the shits. If that.

There is absolutely no way the US would recognize polio as a problem nowadays, or do anything at all useful to try to stop it."


"How and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome () Exhaust the Body"

"Immunological dysfunction persists for 8 months following initial mild-to-moderate SARS-CoV-2 infection"

"ACE2-independent infection of T lymphocytes by SARS-CoV-2"


"We cannot move on from the pandemic and disregard its long-term consequences. Arguably the long-term consequences are going to be even more profound and stick with us and scar a lot of people around us for generations."

"A lot of the manifestations we're describing in this report are chronic conditions that will [affect] people for a lifetime. For example, heart failure isn't something that you wake up tomorrow and all of a sudden don't have."


"'If was really as disabling as you say, don’t you think the government would be doing more to stop it?' Here’s the thing: for all the ways folks love to judge China for it’s zero-Covid strategies, have any of you stopped for one minute to ask WHY they are doing that?"

"China has seen the same data […] recognizing what that means for the workforce, the economy, healthcare systems, etc."

"China is doing everything […] to avoid a mass disabling event."


"Course of post -19 disease symptoms over time in the ComPaRe prospective e-cohort"

Recovery is infrequent. After one year, only 15% recovered; 33% of those that thought they had recovered relapsed.


" could create a generation affected by disability, expert warns"

"The great gaslighting: how longhaulers are still fighting for recognition"

"If we renege on mitigations as each round of infection draws more of all ages into chronic disability, this may be the blunder that we rue for decades to come."


"The medical establishment gaslights doctors, insisting is ‘psychological’"


"It's on the tips of a lot of our minds and tongues, but is never outright said out loud. Let me be the one to say it. If we do not find an attendable means to slow down the spread of SARS 2, in a consistent way, this virus will lead to the collapse of civilization."


"I think it's also because those who haven't grappled with the real vulnerability of our bodies simply find it too scary to contend with the (seeming) randomness of . You can't rationalize a way to be safe from it."


"What do you have to expect?"

"1. You are disabled now. You cannot do the things you used to do.
2. Your able-bodied friends and family will mostly abandon you. This happens to all of us.
3. People in your life will constantly ask you if you're better yet, and ignore you if 'no'.
4. You likely have , which means you can't stand up without getting out of breath.


"7. You will have good days and bad days, but the good days will mostly feel awful. The bad days nobody will understand how anyone can just have days like that.
8. You will RAPIDLY learn about disabled culture, and either choose to embrace it or suffer alone.
9. This never ends.
10. You watch as people you know and love go about their lives as if things are back to normal, never checking in on you."


"31. Initially you will be patient with people. You will have empathy, recognize that they simply don't get it. You'll spend time trying to educate them, one by one. You may even succeed here or there.
32. Soon you will realize most people don't _care_.
33. The anger doesn't stop."

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So many people flee from the idea that we are at the mercy of random chance.

@alienghic yes. especially neoliberals. they love the just world fallacy. which is why society treats disabled, poor, and otherwise disadvantaged people like shit.

"The first is the desire to believe that all the good things one has are attributable primarily or solely to one's self, hard work, and superior character and morality."

"The second is a refusal to accept that bad things can happen to one's self and one's loved ones due to circumstances beyond control."

@meganeko In the US at least there's a great deal of cultural love for Calvinism.

The religious idea that God chooses who gets good and bad outcomes, and that Christians are protected from bad things worse than they can handle.

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@meganeko @alienghic this goes back to Calvinism and the reformation where "only a few" are saved (elect) while the rest of humanity are "soulless animals". So there was the question "am I among the elect?". They came to believe being healthy and wealthy must be elect, so the poor and disabled must be because they are damned. These ideas still effect attitudes about poverty, disability, and racism, especially among evangelicals in the US today. Nazism was also derived from Calvinism.

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